Comments on: Chillpak Hollywood Hour #127 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/ Talking Shop from the Rational Exuberance production offices! Dean Haglund the actor, improv comic and inventor best known as "Langly" one of the three computer-hacking geeks on "The X-Files" and their spin-off series "The Lone Gunmen" discusses all things Hollywood with independent filmmaker Phil Leirness. Every monday you can eavesdrop on the Tinseltown water cooler discussion. Brought to you by Chillpak. Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:30:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lady3Jane http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1772 Lady3Jane Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:04:49 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1772 You can now find the video from this podcast over at youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynsp7FRPTo&feature=channel Enjoy :) You can now find the video from this podcast over at youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynsp7FRPTo&feature=channel

Enjoy :)

]]> By: Linda van Maanen http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1766 Linda van Maanen Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:41:45 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1766 You still haven't proved it Phil. Hehehehe. You still haven’t proved it Phil. Hehehehe.

]]> By: Kimon http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1702 Kimon Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:53:44 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1702 "What I never understood is how there could be different contracts with David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson/ how Anderson would continue (for money?)." Despite what XF did for representing strong women on TV, things weren't like that for the studio. I think her salary was half Duchovny's at first, she tried to increase it but never managed to reach the same amount... "which is pretty much that they dont feel German, they feel European" Interesting! That's changing, no? NPD is a sign of that. Once a nation is strong enough economically, its people no longer feel they should be subservient to another, so nationalism grows again. Like Germany, now that it has re-built itself and has one of the world's strongest industry it might care less about the EU forming a single unified opinion on eg. matters of international relationships. But again, globalization and many young living a life influenced by many countries' cultures (like us!) might change that previously predictable outcome. Is history even in the curriculum in USA? (half-joking) In France they barely mention the US 1776 revolution and don't mention it as an influence on the French Revolution. And in Greece history courses stop at 1945: wounds there are also too recent and interested parties still survive today. Too bad, I would enjoy having courses by different people presenting different aspects, but academic institutions are too tainted by internal politics to allow that. So, there, Phil, Dean, you can do a show on how history is taught in US high schools, and investigate what conspiracy of interests silences all the parts that don't go well with the 20th century's Pax Americana! “What I never understood is how there could be different contracts with David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson/ how Anderson would continue (for money?).”
Despite what XF did for representing strong women on TV, things weren’t like that for the studio. I think her salary was half Duchovny’s at first, she tried to increase it but never managed to reach the same amount…

“which is pretty much that they dont feel German, they feel European”
Interesting! That’s changing, no? NPD is a sign of that. Once a nation is strong enough economically, its people no longer feel they should be subservient to another, so nationalism grows again. Like Germany, now that it has re-built itself and has one of the world’s strongest industry it might care less about the EU forming a single unified opinion on eg. matters of international relationships. But again, globalization and many young living a life influenced by many countries’ cultures (like us!) might change that previously predictable outcome.

Is history even in the curriculum in USA? (half-joking) In France they barely mention the US 1776 revolution and don’t mention it as an influence on the French Revolution. And in Greece history courses stop at 1945: wounds there are also too recent and interested parties still survive today. Too bad, I would enjoy having courses by different people presenting different aspects, but academic institutions are too tainted by internal politics to allow that.

So, there, Phil, Dean, you can do a show on how history is taught in US high schools, and investigate what conspiracy of interests silences all the parts that don’t go well with the 20th century’s Pax Americana!

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1697 Ulrike Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:30:59 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1697 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/balloon-boy-mother-admits-hoax-1808667.html "Balloon boy mother 'admits hoax" --The mother of the six-year-old US boy once feared missing inside a runaway helium balloon admitted the whole saga was a hoax, according to court documents. "The motive for the fabricated story was to make the Heene family more MARKETABLE for future media interest" *sigh* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/balloon-boy-mother-admits-hoax-1808667.html

“Balloon boy mother ‘admits hoax”
–The mother of the six-year-old US boy once feared missing inside a runaway helium balloon admitted the whole saga was a hoax, according to court documents.
“The motive for the fabricated story was to make the Heene family more MARKETABLE for future media interest”
*sigh*

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Ulrike Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:53:39 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1696 so. Ehm. I will stop spamming BUT couldnt you guys have your own cafepress store http://shop.cafepress.com or something? Then you could sell “The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“ as a t-shirt,pullover and coffee mug. Whichhh of course is a bit ironic with "the idea that you can sell it" and all *gestures*. But we philes wouldnt want to infringe any of your copyrights ;) so. Ehm. I will stop spamming BUT
couldnt you guys have your own cafepress store http://shop.cafepress.com or something?
Then you could sell “The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“ as a t-shirt,pullover and coffee mug. Whichhh of course is a bit ironic with “the idea that you can sell it” and all *gestures*. But we philes wouldnt want to infringe any of your copyrights ;)

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1695 Ulrike Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:39:18 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1695 @Kimon Re Germany Well my friends and I are 3rd generation. Its interesting if you compare the feeling they have towards their nationality ( which is pretty much that they dont feel German, they feel European) with Americans of the same age. I always love to hear about history lessons people had at high school. In America it may be 1776 and that revolutionary constitution which then had influence on the French Revolution and all of that. Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Co. While in Germany you learn "in the first World War we ...." "in the second World War we...". They are still struggling with history after 45- that is pretty different in East and West cause the current generation still lived during GDR times etc. . I hear you - I read about fascists in Italy and Austria. Nothing about France-will check. I guess it always depends on the social circumstances. They are strong in federal states where unemployment rates are high. If you dont have a job, its always easier to blame migrants or other groups of people. I would prefer if we didnt need nationalists who beat up/kill people to "remind us of the values of democracy" really. And I want to scream when there are these international meetings and there is the German standard sentence "never again"! Oh? Never again,huh? what about those NPD people? Anyway. This is really not the right for this. I always wished foreign countries would pressure Germany to do more about this issue though- like when Obama visited Buchenwald and Dresden this year. bummer. Well they all dont want to endanger any trade agreements--like with China. It sadly will take fascists to beat up/kill a foreign tourist/ Israeli for them to "pay attention". :( @Kimon Re Germany
Well my friends and I are 3rd generation. Its interesting if you compare the feeling they have towards their nationality ( which is pretty much that they dont feel German, they feel European) with Americans of the same age. I always love to hear about history lessons people had at high school. In America it may be 1776 and that revolutionary constitution which then had influence on the French Revolution and all of that. Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Co. While in Germany you learn “in the first World War we ….” “in the second World War we…”. They are still struggling with history after 45- that is pretty different in East and West cause the current generation still lived during GDR times etc. .
I hear you – I read about fascists in Italy and Austria. Nothing about France-will check. I guess it always depends on the social circumstances. They are strong in federal states where unemployment rates are high. If you dont have a job, its always easier to blame migrants or other groups of people.
I would prefer if we didnt need nationalists who beat up/kill people to “remind us of the values of democracy” really.
And I want to scream when there are these international meetings and there is the German standard sentence “never again”! Oh? Never again,huh? what about those NPD people? Anyway. This is really not the right for this. I always wished foreign countries would pressure Germany to do more about this issue though- like when Obama visited Buchenwald and Dresden this year. bummer. Well they all dont want to endanger any trade agreements–like with China. It sadly will take fascists to beat up/kill a foreign tourist/ Israeli for them to “pay attention”. :(

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1694 Ulrike Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:08:18 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1694 “The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“ That pretty much summarizes my feeling about seasons 8 & 9. --- Jupp, mine too! It also would make a pretty awesome t-shirt! Maybe someone should sell it online somewhere and connect it to the paypal-donation-thingy for the LGM movie or something =D. Ha! S8 and S9: IIt always felt like Fox sayin' :"Oh c'mon, if we make another season you would still buy the DvDs cause you are a fan,right?" As if content and story don matter at all. On the other hand the were the writers who like the believer/skeptic dynamic and thought it could just go on. I also liked what the guys of BackToFrankBlack said about the believability of those season in their BTFB/XFN podcast: http://www.backtofrankblack.com/podcasts/Millennium_Group_Sessions_X-Over.mp3 What I never understood is how there could be different contracts with David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson/ how Anderson would continue (for money?). I mean I wouldnt want the show to end after season 7! But like you said Kimon: "With the Syndicate, decent drama could be built around their very human remorse, choices and tribulations. The Supersoldiers are not human, they have no doubts, no character to speak of, they're a storytelling dead-end." “The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“
That pretty much summarizes my feeling about seasons 8 & 9.
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Jupp, mine too! It also would make a pretty awesome t-shirt! Maybe someone should sell it online somewhere and connect it to the paypal-donation-thingy for the LGM movie or something =D. Ha!
S8 and S9: IIt always felt like Fox sayin’ :”Oh c’mon, if we make another season you would still buy the DvDs cause you are a fan,right?” As if content and story don matter at all.
On the other hand the were the writers who like the believer/skeptic dynamic and thought it could just go on. I also liked what the guys of BackToFrankBlack said about the believability of those season in their BTFB/XFN podcast: http://www.backtofrankblack.com/podcasts/Millennium_Group_Sessions_X-Over.mp3
What I never understood is how there could be different contracts with David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson/ how Anderson would continue (for money?). I mean I wouldnt want the show to end after season 7! But like you said Kimon:
“With the Syndicate, decent drama could be built around their very human remorse, choices and tribulations. The Supersoldiers are not human, they have no doubts, no character to speak of, they’re a storytelling dead-end.”

]]> By: Kimon http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1692 Kimon Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:35:37 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1692 @Ulrike: "Ps: Here is an ugly truth for you: did you know there is a legal neo-fascist party in Germany called NPD?" I was happy when I saw Germans happily waving their flag in the Weltmeistershaft of 2006, there is good in no longer feeling overwhelmed by the weight of the past your parents left you. But I guess 60 years is not only enough to re-build a country economically but also to make people forget, even in a place with such monuments as Berlin. These groups can always serve as reminders when they're powerless -- but when they gain in importance it starts becoming concerning, like in Austria, France, Italy. "The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“ That pretty much summarizes my feeling about seasons 8 & 9. @Ulrike: “Ps: Here is an ugly truth for you: did you know there is a legal neo-fascist party in Germany called NPD?”
I was happy when I saw Germans happily waving their flag in the Weltmeistershaft of 2006, there is good in no longer feeling overwhelmed by the weight of the past your parents left you. But I guess 60 years is not only enough to re-build a country economically but also to make people forget, even in a place with such monuments as Berlin. These groups can always serve as reminders when they’re powerless — but when they gain in importance it starts becoming concerning, like in Austria, France, Italy.

“The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“
That pretty much summarizes my feeling about seasons 8 & 9.

]]> By: Katrin http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1691 Katrin Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:26:27 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1691 Thanks to Dean and Phil for the great time in Berlin May we see us again, when you make another show in Germany.... Thanks to Dean and Phil for the great time in Berlin
May we see us again, when you make another show in Germany….

]]> By: Verena (danafuchs) http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 Verena (danafuchs) Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:50:16 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1690 Thank you so much for coming to X Con! Your improv show was the best.... I just noticed: I forgot to ask a question.... I'll just post it here... maybe you'll find the time to answer it?? I recently re-watched to LGM season and the question just popped into my head: "What did you think on 9-11 after having done the lone gun man pilot?? Thank you so much for coming to X Con! Your improv show was the best….

I just noticed: I forgot to ask a question…. I’ll just post it here… maybe you’ll find the time to answer it??
I recently re-watched to LGM season and the question just popped into my head: “What did you think on 9-11 after having done the lone gun man pilot??

]]> By: Christine http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1689 Christine Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:25:17 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1689 I was waiting for this to be online since I was home from the Con :) I loved your show, guys, and I will definitely continue listening to your podcasts! I was waiting for this to be online since I was home from the Con :) I loved your show, guys, and I will definitely continue listening to your podcasts!

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 Ulrike Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:21:03 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1687 #3 Phil said he thinks we all have access to that which enables writes to perceive/imagine future scenarios. (I know this is not what he was talking about, but)Sometimes I think it's so daunting how easily the ‚public‘ is deceived by false information when people are busy enough with trying to make their living. Oooor we spent our time at fan conventions and chat room. *Caugh* Some just don't have the means or time to check global news/ even decide what part of the national ‚news‘ is true, and which is maybe only a version of what the government/companies wants us to think that happened. Another reason I am such a huge fan of documnetaries who sometimes bring information to people who would never have come into contact with information about Tibetan monks or exotic animals in endangered forests. So keep up the good work and keep us updated. Hope Phil gets rid of that bunker-cold soon. Ps: Here is an ugly truth for you: did you know there is a legal neo-fascist party in Germany called NPD? #3

Phil said he thinks we all have access to that which enables writes to perceive/imagine future scenarios.
(I know this is not what he was talking about, but)Sometimes I think it’s so daunting how easily the ‚public‘ is deceived by false information when people are busy enough with trying to make their living.
Oooor we spent our time at fan conventions and chat room. *Caugh*
Some just don’t have the means or time to check global news/ even decide what part of the national ‚news‘ is true, and which is maybe only a version of what the government/companies wants us to think that happened.
Another reason I am such a huge fan of documnetaries who sometimes bring information to people who would never have come into contact with information about Tibetan monks or exotic animals in endangered forests.

So keep up the good work and keep us updated.
Hope Phil gets rid of that bunker-cold soon.

Ps: Here is an ugly truth for you: did you know there is a legal neo-fascist party in Germany called NPD?

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1686 Ulrike Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:14:44 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1686 #2 As for the history monuments- of course it’s also a tourism branch and a question of international credibility. So maybe that disenchants that part a bit. But yeah, most of the monuments are not exactly patriotic and are rather a warning. But things like that -exhibitions about history , museums, anything cultural- rather cost money and countries need a certain motivation to ‚uncover the truth‘. After all, the ideological conflict during cold war had us guessing long enough for what is and isn‘t ‚the truth‘. So I am glad that there are people like you out there who care for „people who seek the truth“, make documentaries and spread some truths which are failing to be of interest to marketing executives. ;) #2

As for the history monuments- of course it’s also a tourism branch and a question of international credibility. So maybe that disenchants that part a bit. But yeah, most of the monuments are not exactly patriotic and are rather a warning. But things like that -exhibitions about history , museums, anything cultural- rather cost money and countries need a certain motivation to ‚uncover the truth‘. After all, the ideological conflict during cold war had us guessing long enough for what is and isn‘t ‚the truth‘.

So I am glad that there are people like you out there who care for „people who seek the truth“, make documentaries and spread some truths which are failing to be of interest to marketing executives. ;)

]]> By: Ulrike http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1685 Ulrike Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:13:18 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1685 (ok-apparently my comment is too long - so I am gonna split it, hehe) #1 Thanks for coming to the X-Con and sepnding so much time with us! It was sooo interesting and fun having you there! Thank you also for your answers to my two ‚questions‘. „The idea that you can sell it shouldn't be the reason to make it.“ :) „Showing up for work because on a project marketing executives said that they can sell it.“ I was so positively surprised when I first heard of the places you visited in Berlin! I guess I thought you’d make some standard sightseeing tour or something. Prejudices... I just should have checked your page before this event. Now I have over 100 entries to catch up with. It’s just that often the interest in Germany history in ‚the media‘ focuses on war and Nazi crimes- as if there wasn’t a life in Germany after 1945. But then again-that takes time. Glad that you found something for your documentary and maybe food for thought in Berlin. (ok-apparently my comment is too long – so I am gonna split it, hehe)

#1
Thanks for coming to the X-Con and sepnding so much time with us! It was sooo interesting and fun having you there!
Thank you also for your answers to my two ‚questions‘.
„The idea that you can sell it shouldn’t be the reason to make it.“ :)
„Showing up for work because on a project marketing executives said that they can sell it.“

I was so positively surprised when I first heard of the places you visited in Berlin! I guess I thought you’d make some standard sightseeing tour or something. Prejudices… I just should have checked your page before this event. Now I have over 100 entries to catch up with.
It’s just that often the interest in Germany history in ‚the media‘ focuses on war and Nazi crimes- as if there wasn’t a life in Germany after 1945. But then again-that takes time. Glad that you found something for your documentary and maybe food for thought in Berlin.

]]> By: Kimon http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 Kimon Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:17:09 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1681 Cheers for this we all had a ball in the X-Con. And Phil, Dean, you've won yourselves a listener! Hope to see you again around here, movies are cheaper to make in Europe and we don't lack in conspiracy theories! Cheers for this we all had a ball in the X-Con.
And Phil, Dean, you’ve won yourselves a listener! Hope to see you again around here, movies are cheaper to make in Europe and we don’t lack in conspiracy theories!

]]> By: Nastja http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/2009/10/20/chillpak-hollywood-hour-127/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Nastja Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:21:17 +0000 http://www.chillpakhollywood.com/?p=203#comment-1679 Thank you for uploading this so quickly. All of us philes at the X-Con had a great time at both your show and the panel :)! Thank you for uploading this so quickly. All of us philes at the X-Con had a great time at both your show and the panel :) !

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